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Alexis Menard- Louise Pageau family history

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Notes:

  1. This history will become the basis for my September 2011 tutorial at the Parker Genealogical Society. (Another example French Canada search for Francois Lafaye & Marguerite Foret/Forest is also underway at ManyRoads and may be used during the tutorial.)
  2. Hyperlinks on this page will most often open source documents.
  3. Comments, suggestions & questions are most welcomed.

For those of you who follow ManyRoads, you will recall that I have been looking for years for my great-grandmother’s family (Exina Menard- Deyo).  I am sharing my work and data as it evolves (I hope much like a tutorial or case study.) for three reasons:

  • to help me keep things in one place (a running log?)
  • share the process of research with anyone interested in seeing my work as it stumbles, jerks and ultimately unfolds
  • to use in my September tutorial

Be aware, this page is being actively worked and its content will change!

This material grew in large part from a forum posting originally created by Bev Farrington (thank you Bev for the leads!).  So far as I can tell, based upon Bev’s, as well as my own, research, our Alexandre Menard is NOT related to another Alexis Menard from Clinton County NY- he was the son of Francois Menard & Madeleine Matte.

Now on to what I believe we can say about Exina Deyo’s parents, Alexis/Alexandre Menard/Minar/Miner (also known as: Alexis Menard dit Bellerose) and Louise/Marie-Louise/LaLouisa Pageau/Pajeau/Painchaud/Page/Pigeon/Payette/Pajo/Pacheau.

In the 1851 Canadian Census, Alexis shows up as living with his parents (Alexis Menard- a farmer & Margueritte Barriere- housewife) as well as with his siblings (Pierre, Edouard, Abram- all three sons were classed as Laborers).  Most peculiarly, the Alexis Menard family is listed on the exact same page of the 1851 Canada Census as the family of Joseph & Julie Dion/ Deyo/Deo (this is the family into which Exina later marries- George/ Georges Deo/ Deyo!).

Then if that weren’t odd enough, a very generous Menard Family Member (Jackie Menard Hillier) sent me additional information on Alexis; and there he was married to Aurelie Dion (10 Feb 1852). Be aware, this is the very same Dion family into which my g-grandmother Exina marries again (to a nephew of Aurelie) much later in time. To add further confusion to the mix, I have no children for this marriage, nor do I find a death for Aurelie (yet). My assumption, based upon the data I have, is that Aurelie and Alexis had no children. And, Aurelie disappears after this marriage; it is likely she dies.

Alexis Menard- Aurelie Dion Marriage 1852

Further research (perhaps I should say, fortuitous searching)also has lead me to the discovery of a Michel Page family in Huntingdon County Quebec. Is this the family of Louise Page?  It looks like it might be. Certainly the name and location is correct.  But most certainly we need more information.

Michel Page Family Canada Census 1851

Alexis’ & Louise’s marriage is likely to have taken place between 1852-1855 before 1856 (the assumed birth date of Marie-Louise Menard for whom I have yet to find a birth document) but after 1852, the marriage of Alexis to Aurelie this is based upon the fact that in 1851 Alexis was living with his parents in St. Bernard Lacolle, Quebec, Canada; and, the couple’s first known child was born in 1856. I expect that the actual marriage year is closest to 1855 (or 1856 minus 9 months).

Of an expected 13 children, we have, thus far, identified:

  1. Daughter- Marie Louise, born in 1856 Lacolle Quebec, Canada (no birth record yet…), she was married 18 Sep 1876 at St Edmund’s of Ellenburg to Marcel Bowen/ Boimie
  2. Son- Alexandre Thomas, born 26 May 1857, bapt 17 Oct 1857, St John the Baptist of Keeseville – the 1861 Canada Census notes his birth as being in L.C or Bas Canada (no birth record yet…)
  3. Daughter- Marceline (Marie Marceline Menard), born about 1859, Lacolle Quebec, Canada. She appears to have died before 1863 when her sister Marie Celina was born.  Based upon naming conventions, it is possible that they shared the same name.
  4. Daughter- Marie Celina – baptized 1863, Lacolle Quebec, Canada
  5. Daughter- Aurelie (Aurilla), born 26 May 1865, Lacolle (St-Bernard), Quebec,Canada (Note: her birth record provided most links/ clues to Alexis’s roots in LaColle, Quebec.)
  6. Son- Jeremie, born 8 Dec 1867, baptized 19 Jan 1868, St Patrick’s of Chateauguay (Franklin County)
  7. Daughter- Adelia/Rose de Lima, born 24, baptized 25 Mar 1870, St Edmund’s of Ellenburgh
  8. Daughter- Agnes, born 7, baptized 29 Sep 1872, St Edmund’s of Ellenburgh
  9. Daughter-Marie Lucilda, born 29 Sept, baptized 11 Oct 1874, St Philomene’s of Churubusco
  10. Daughter- Honora/Eleanor, born and baptized 30 Sep 1877, Ste Anne de Centreville of Mooers Forks
  11. Son- Francois, born July/Aug 1879; died Sept. 1880
  12. Daughter- Axina/Exina Marie Birth 11 Feb 1882  — Bapt. 4 March 1882 St Edmund’s of Ellenburgh; church baptismal record notes: Parents Alexandre Minar – LaLouisa Pajo; sponsors were noted as being Jeremiah Minar & Delima Minar; her First Communion was in 1893 and her Confirmation in 1896..

The family is known to have resided in the following locations (this chronology is based largely upon children’s assumed or documented birth locations as well as Census data)….

  • 1851, 1852, 1857, 1859, 1861, 1865 – LaColle, Quebec, Canada
  • 1867, 1868 – Chateauguay (Franklin County)
  • 1870, 1872 – Ellenburgh (Clinton County)
  • 1874 – Churubusco (Clinton County)
  • 1876 – Ellenburgh (Clinton County)
  • 1877 – Mooers Forks (Clinton County)
  • 1879, 1882, 1883, 1893, 1896 – Ellenburgh (Clinton County)

The following paragraph is being replaced by more certain and accurate facts. The Civil War Alex Menard is not ours. Removal of this information is based upon data obtained from the Civil War Alex’s grave stone highlighting his wife as being Mary Barcomb, not our Louise Pageau.

The family has not been found in 1860 US Census which leads me to believe they may have resided in Canada during the time that enumeration was taken (the Census year of 1860) and perhaps for the duration of the US Civil War- the years 1861- 1865. Alex Manor Civil War Record- 1865-2 One fact supporting this contention is that in 1865, the year Aurelie was born in LaColle Canada, the family was noted as being members of the LaColle parish in Quebec. Additionally, I have found a record for one “Alex Manor of Mooers, NY” who was a private in the 118th Regiment, New York Infantry Company I (Adirondack Regiment) of the Union Armies during the years of 1862-1865. (For a timeline of the 118th access this link).  Circumstantial evidence appears to point to this as our Alex Menard although thus far it is impossible to prove this ‘absolutely’. Interestingly, the 118th and Alex Manor were present at the cesation of hostilities following their participation in the Battle of Appomattox.

During the 1861 Canada Census, the family of Alexis Menard and Louise Pageau is living in Lacolle next to Alexis parents. Based upon this data, they appear, as of 1861 ‘not yet’ to have emigrated to the United States. This conflicts with the assumed residences listed in Bev’s original posting on the family. Birth records of the family’s pre- 1861 children will provide a more accurate indication of their home location during the first years of their marriage. Until I find something different, I will continue with my assumed chronology, above, using the mix of Census data and birth records I have at this time.

By the time of the 1870 US Census, we find the Alex MAINOR family living in Ellenburgh Center (Clinton County) NY. This would seem to indicate that they emigrated to the US sometime during the years between 1861 and 1869.  In 1870 the family members include:

  1. Alex, 42, Canada
  2. Mary, 31, NY
  3. Louisa, 14, NY
  4. Alexander, 13, NY
  5. Aurilla, 5, Canada
  6. Jeremiah, 2, NY
  7. Adelia, 2/12, NY

With the 1880 US Census, the “renamed” MINERs are located in Clinton (Clinton County) NY.  By this time the family has grown to include:

  1. Alexander, 48, Canada
  2. Mary, 42, NY
  3. Thomas, 23, NY
  4. Aurilla, 15, Canada
  5. Jeremiah, 12, NY
  6. Delia, 10, NY
  7. Agnes, 7, NY
  8. Mary, 5, NY
  9. Honora, 2, NY
  10. Francis, 10/12, NY

Then sadly in August of 1883, we find that Louisa Page/ Miner has died. The words on Louisa Page/ Miner’s grave (located in St. Edmund’s Cemetery, Ellenburg Center, Clinton County, New York) read: Louisa Page-Miner Grave 1883

MINER
Louisa PAGE / Wife of / Alex MINER, / Died Aug. 21, 1883. / AE. 45 Yrs. /
May her soul rest in peace Amen /
She was mother of 13 children /
Francis / Their Son died / Sept. 1880. / Age 22. Mos. /

Based upon a Lacolle death record I have found, I believe our Alexis Menard died in 1907 in Lacolle, Quebec, the husband of Celina Messier of Mooers Forks, NY.

TODO:
  • gather remaining images of children’s births/ deaths/ etc.
  • check vital records for Louisa & Alexis clues
  • search for grave of Alexandre
  • search for Menard- Pageau marriage documents
  • add document images
  • study, review and use the following data for further research:
  • order and review following records:
  • Catholic Church. St. Jean le Baptiste (Keeseville, New York)-Baptisms, marriages, burials 1853-1863 FHL US/CAN Film 1450720
  • St. Patrick’s Church of Chateaugay, N.Y., 1863-1915 FHL US/CAN Film 1450729
  • “Town of Mooers” book which was  compiled in 2004 with the civil records of Mooers (1804 – 2004) from the Northern New York American-Canadian Genealogical Society
Tricks? I have used to uncover my data..

For more detailed pointers/tips see additional posts on searching for materials about Quebec ancestors:

 

  • Heavy use of Ancestry.com records, especially the Drouin records
  • Heavy use of Mocavo.com queries
  • Made extensive use of the Northern New York Tombstone Project
  • I have read every page of each Census (US and Canada looking for clues beyond those found for an original searched ‘person’.
  • I have conducted extensive research on siblings to find clues about parents.
  • I have conducted numerous validation and exploratory searches on Canada Genealogy for information.
  • I have searched every online cemetery record/ database I could find for Clinton County NY; the northern NY transcription project being most heavily used.
  • I use as many spellings of surnames and given names as I can invent to conduct queries.. never say never!
  • Researched Rootsweb looking for clues & hints.  I have found some very useful information on Alexis’ parents there!
  • I have posted messages seeking additional information on Ancestry.com Message Borads, Genealogy.com (for Deyo, Menard, Pageau family names).
  • I have read every page of the Church and Census records for the following Towns and years:
  • St. Bernard Parish in Lacolle, Quebec, Canada- 1854,1855,1856,1857 (on Ancestry.com)
  • St. Valentin Parish in Lacolle, Quebec, Canada- 1855-1867, 1847-1855, 1839-1847 volumes (for years 1852-1859 and 1839 on FamilySearch.org; 1856, 1839 (on Ancestry.com)
  • St. Constant 1852-1855 on FamilySearch.org
  • St. Bernard 1852-1855 on FamilySearch.org
  • Lapraire 1852-1855 also 1835-1841 on FamilySearch.org
  • Napierville 1852-1855 also 1835-1841 on FamilySearch.org
  • St Jean Chrysostome 1852-1855 also 1835-1841 on FamilySearch.org
  • St. Mathieu 1852-1855 also 1835-1841 on FamilySearch.org
  • St. Marc sur Richelieu 1852-1855 also 1835-1841 on FamilySearch.org
  • St. Antoine sur Richelieu 1852-1855 also 1835-1841 on FamilySearch.org
  • St. Philomena Parish in Churubusco, NY, USA- 1873-1915 (LDS Family History Center)
  • St. Joseph du Corbeau in Coopersville, NY, USA- 1855, 1856 (on Ancestry.com)

I have read the following Canada Census documents:

  • Huntingdon County, Quebec, 1861, 1851 (all)

I continue to seek additional clues for Alexis Menard dit Bellerose’s and Louise Pageau’s life, marriage, children, events and photos(?). Is there anyone out there who might have additional clues or pointers? If so, please contact me directly.

2010 Top Ten

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Hmm… the top 10 genealogy items for ManyRoads this year are…

I wish I could say this list was complete, but it isn’t. But in the spirit of celebration, here’s my list: 

10. Being invited to speak on genealogy at two locales during the year (Public speaking).
9. Accumulating copies of the Zeyer ev. Kirche records at the LDS Family History Center in Parker (Zeyer ev. Kirche Documents ).
8. Breaking the Deyo family brickwall (male line- Deyo-Deo-Dion-Guyon! ).
7. Creation of the ManyRoads Libraries (Libraries).
6. Creation of our Vertreibung Libraries and Galleries (Expulsion – Vertreibung).
5. Discovery of the imprisonment of Henss family ancestor Robert Owen by the British and Robert’s invitation to move the  New World by William Penn (Robert & Jane (Vaughan) Owen- 1684 ).
4. Building my wife’s maternal family line from scratch.
3. Identifying the graves of two uncles who died fighting for their country in WW1 (Adolf Senger - Albert Senger ).
2. Obtaining a copy from the DRK Suchdienst for my grandmother’s incarceration in Soviet Gulags following World War 2 (Frieda Senger -Suchdienst & Soviet Records ).
1. Finding the birth records of my ‘Senger’ grandparents and great grandparents!(Frieda Senger Birth Record, Zeyer ev. Kirche Documents,  Adelgunde Wilhelmine Senger geb. Kiehl is found!).

Other significant personal events of 2010 included:

No name, no date… #2

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What do you do when there are no names or dates to work with?

Genealogy-IdeasWell quite simply, there has to be something or else you are in deep trouble!  Having said that there are many times when the names are and dates are unclear, indefinite or conflicting. I have found a few options that work with regularity, at least for me they do!  In no particular sequence, they include:

  1. Census records. Look to see if you can find a cluster of family members that resemble those you seek.  In one of my best examples, I found a Peter & Julie Deyo family.  I was seeking a Joseph and Julia Deo family, at the time.  When I compared the family member names with two other Census records, one from 1851 in Canada and one from 1870 in the US there was an uncanny similarity. So I went with it! You can find this example hidden away on our Deyo Genealogy page.
  2. Follow the kids. If you have some children from one generation but are missing a desired sibling, follow those children that you do have.  Often I find that these relations lead me to the person I seek.
  3. Read the documents! I can not tell you how many times I seem to be the first person to struggle my way through a source document.  Source documents can provide a wealth of new insight and information.  I have found countless new generations of the family simply by reading a birth or wedding record to find the parents name(s).

There are other tricks as well. As I further gather and formulate my thoughts, I’ll post them here.

Joseph Yon (Joseph Deyo) by Wilfred Deyo

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PART I

JOSEPH YON
(JOSEPH DEYO)
1805-1880-PLUS

INTRODUCTION

Joseph Yon was born around the year 1805. His parents, Ignace Yon (Guyon) and Marie Suzanne Gervais were of the Parish of St. Marc sur Richelieu. It is believed Joseph lived in the area of St. Marc until his marriage at about the age of twenty three. He was a furniture maker of legal age when he married Julienne Denys, daughter of Ignace Denys and Julie Fall. The marriage took place on June 22, 1828 in the parish of St. Cyprien of Napierville, Quebec, Canada.

With all the information available it would appear that Joseph and Julienne (Denys) Yon/Deyo had a total of eleven children, six boys and five girls-the last being Marie Dion (Mary Deyo), born February 2, 1852 in the parish of St. Bernard of Lacolle, Quebec, Canada.

It is believed that Joseph Yon/Deyo migrated to the United States from the area of Lacolle, Quebec, Canada around the mid 1850’s and settled in the area of Altona/Sciota in Clinton County, New York where he lived until his death sometimes after the year 1880. It is not known at this time whether Joseph or Julia died first.

There were instances where Julia’s maiden name was given as “FAYE”. The writer thinks this was in reference to her mother’s maiden name which appears as “FALL” in some documents such as a Chart received from Albert Smith that lists all their children as he found them in the records at that time. The name “FALL” may well be an error of what would have been the most probable French surname of “FALLE” or “FAILLE”-both of which may translate as “FAYE” in English. Why Julie (or others) used her mother’s maiden name is not known other than perhaps this was another case of the language difficulty that existed between the French-Canadians and the English speaking officials at that time.

The writer wishes to note here that in research he has reached the conclusion that after Joseph Yon migrated to the United States, he and his family became known by the name DEO and/or DEYO and as such were recorded in the “public records” of the various “Public Offices” where they lived at the time. The exception of course being Catholic Churches (at least until 1900) that continued to use the name DION as the family surname for the records in their Parish books.

The writer in correlating all the information available to him through research has compiled the following Genealogical account of the children he believes to be the complete and entire family of Joseph Yon/Deo/Deyo/Dion. Dion of course being the family surname sometimes recorded in the Church records in Canada and the United States. In the United States after the year 1900 the name Deo and Deyo began appearing in the church records, particularly in upper New York State.

The reader is taken through the following phases of the writer’s research in order that it will be better understood how the writer came to the conclusion that the children shown under Genealogy were the total and final members of the Joseph Yon and Julienne (Denys) Yon family, later known as Deo and/or Deyo.

On January 28, 1983, Albert Smith, the writer’s record searcher in St. Jean, Quebec, Canada sent him the following names and baptism dates of Joseph Yon’s children. All information available on the children will be shown under the heading of Genealogy.

1. Louis Yon
2. Dorothee Yon
3. Aurelie Dion
4. Adelaide Dion
5. Julie Yon
6. Joseph Dion
7. Raphael Dion
8. Hilaire Guinon (The writer’s grandfather)

On December 8, 1983, Albert Smith provided the writer with the following information in his letter of the above date. The writer will quote directly from that letter.
“What I did come across in doing some research for other families in this area has to do with the Census records done in 1842 and 1851. In the 1842 Census on microfilm, reel C-731, folio 2493 for Henryville lists a Joseph Deo with a total of 7 in household, this being a family head only Census. Lists 2 males under 5 yrs. 1 female aged 5-14 yrs., 1 female 14-45 yrs. Husband over 60 and wife over 45 yrs.

The writer correlated this information with the one sent on January 28, 1983 and came up with what he believes to be a correct assumption of the family of Joseph Deo in 1842. The parents ages appear to be in error so a question mark takes the place of their ages.
1842 Census Report-Henryville, Quebec, Canada
Deo, Joseph—————Age–??
Wife—————– “ –??
Aurelie————– “ –10
Francois————- “ –07
Baptiste————– “ –06
Julie—————— “ –5/12
Note:-The children’s ages are calculated on previous information and later data received by the writer.
Also note that Louis and Dorothee were already deceased when this Census Report was taken. And Julie had just been born prior to the Census. The above accounts for the 7 mentioned in Albert Smith’s letter.

1851 Census Report for St. Bernard of Lacolle, reel C-1121, page 25 lists a Joseph Dion and family:
Joseh Dion——————–Born St. Marc———Age 46
Julienne Dion—————–Born Lacadie———-Age 45
Aurelie————————- “ Lacadie———- “ 19
Adelaide———————– “ “ ———- “ 17
Francois———————— “ “ ———- “ 15
Baptiste———————— “ “ ———- “ 12
Julie—————————- “ “ ———– “ 9
Joseph————————– “ “ ———– “ 7
Raphael———————— “ “ ———– “ 5
Hilaire————————– “ “ ———- “ 3

Note:-As in the 1842 Census for Henryville-Louis and Dorothee are deceased. Julia who will be shown later was born shortly after the 1852 Census was taken. Also the writer believes that the name Dion is used in this Census Report because the Church Parish of Lacolle may have been involved in gathering the data.

The next period in Joseph Yon/Deyo’s life that the writer learns about is that shortly after migrating from Canada to Upper New York State he became a United States citizen. The following information was received in a letter from Addie Shields, Historian, Clinton County, New York.

Aliens admitted, Clinton County, Plattsburgh, New York.
Book 3, pg. 2502.
-Deyo, Joseph at 60 yrs., living in Altona, born in Canada
makes a declaration and is received 24 Oct., 1861.

The next time anything is seen about Joseph Deyo is when he appears in the United States Census. Much of the information that follows was received from Addie Shields, Historian.

United States Census Reports.
1870-Town of Altona, Clinton County, New York.
-Deyo, Joseph———-60——–Farmer——-b. Canada
Julia————-60——-Wife———-b. Canada
(Note: Joseph’s and Julia’s ages are apparently in error).

1880-Town of Altona, Clinton County, New York
-Deyo, Joseph———-80——–Farmer——-b. Canada
Julia————-81——-Wife———-b. Canada

The reader is reminded that there is no positive proof that the Joseph Deyo, purchaser of the property below is same one as above. This person could logically be his son or other kin since there were so many males named Joseph in those early days of the Deyo lineage.
The writer has recorded the following information in the interest of avoiding any oversight in the life of Joseph Yon/Deyo (ac1805-1880-plus) in his write-up. Research will continue in hopes of clarifying this area.

Property purchased.
1871-Deyo, Joseph of Plattsburgh purchased for $350, half of Lot
No. 8 on West side of Wm. St.

1873-Deyo, Joseph of Plattsburgh purchased half of Lot No. 8.
(Note: Writer believes this refers to the other half of Lot No.
8 purchased in 1871).

There are still many areas relating to PART I which are being researched by the writer. When sufficient information becomes available it will be made an addendum to this write-up.

GENEALOGY

Joseph Yon/Deyo.
Born:-ac1805. Place believed to be St. Marc.
Bapt:-Date and place unknown.
Married:-July 22, 1828 to Marie Anne Gervais of St. Marc., in the Parish
of Saint-Cyprien of Napierville, Diocese of St-Jean., Quebec,
Canada.
Died:-Sometime after 1880. Date and place unknown.

CHILDREN

1. Louis——–Born:-August 17, 1829 in the Parish of St. Cyprien, Napierville, Quebec,
Canada.
Bapt.-August 18, 1829.
Died:-September 9, 1829. Place unknown.

2. Dorothee—Born:-ac June 6, 1830 in the Parish of St. Cyprien.
Bapt.-February 6, 1831 in the Parish of St. Valentin.
Died:-February 6, 1831 in the Parish of St. Valentin.

3. Aurelie—–Born:-June 26, 1832
Bapt.-July 26, 1832 in the Parish of St. Valentin.
Married:-February 2, 1852 to Alexis Menard in the Parish of St. Bernard
of Lacolle, Quebec, Canada.
Died:-Date and Place unknown.

4. Adelaide—Born:-May 19, 1835 in St. Jean, Quebec, Canada.
Bapt.-July 7, 1835 in St. Jean.
Married:-No information.
Died:-Place and Date unknown.

5. Francois—-Born:-sc 1836 in Lacolle, Quebec, Canada.
Bapt.-Date and place unknown.
Married:-Date and place unknown. Based on other documents-to
Margaret Dennis of Canada.
Died:-March 22, 1913 in Alburg, Vermont. Buried there with his wife
in the Catholic Cemetery. The names on the tombstone are Deo
and Deyo. Margaret died in Alburg, Vermont on August 9, 1882
at the age of 35.

6. Baptiste—-Born:-ac 1839 in Lacolle, Quebec, Canada.
Bapt.-Date and place unknown.
Married:-Around 1867. Place believed to be Altona, New York and under
the name John Baptiste Dion to Marrie Anna Bonah.

7. Julie———Born:-August 5, 1842 in St. Valentin, Quebec, Canada.
Bapt.-August 7, 1842 in St. Valentin.
Married:-No information
Died:-No information.

8. Joseph——Born:-February 7, 1845 in the Parish of St. Bernard.
Bapt.-February 24, 1845 in the Parish of St. Bernard.
Married:-No information.
Died:-No information.

9. Raphael—–Born:-May 26, 1847 at Henryville, Quebec, Canada.
Bapt.-May 29, 1847 at Henryville.
Married:-Date and place unknown. To Adeline Lambert of Canada.

10. Hilaire—–Born:-March 26, 1849 in Lacolle, Quebec, Canada.
Bapt.-April 12, 1849 in the Parish of St. Bernard of Lacolle.
Married:-1st:-October 10, 1870 in St. Joseph’s Church in Coopersville,
New York under the name Hilaire YOUNG to Marcellaine
Babien.
2nd:-January 6, 1873 in Alburg, Vermont under the name ELI
DEYOto Miranda Baba.
3rd:-February 25, 1895 in Champlain, New York under the name
Hilam DION to Philomnie Lafountan.
Died:-January 24, 1924 in Hampden, Massachusetts. He and his third
wife are buried in St. Mary’s Cemetery in Hampden, Mass. His
third wife, Philomena (LaFountain) Deyo died May 21, 1950 in
Springfield, Massachusetts at the age of 90. The writer has no
information on the date, place and burial location of Hilaire’s first
and second wives. The logical places would be in New York
and/or Vermont.

11. Marie——Born:-February 6, 1852 in the Parish of St. Bernard of Lacolle, Quebec,
Canada.
Bapt.-February 8, 1852 in the Parish of St. Bernard.
Married:-May 11, 1868 to Louis Trombley. Place unknown.
Died:-December 15, 1926. Louis died on January 15, 1907. Place of
death and burial site is Sciota, New York with burial in the St.
Louis of France Church Cemetery in Sciota.

The reader must now begin to understand and appreciate the complexity of this research work as so many first names and surnames appear and vary for the same person over the early years of the writer’s ancestors. The language difficulty experienced by these people must have been enormous.

The lives of the persons, such as their marriages, children and other information of interest will be covered in greater detail when the Genealogy of each is written and added to Part I by the writer.

POSTSCRIPT by Craig LaPine: I obtained this work by Wilfred Deyo in the Clinton County Historian’s office in Plattsburgh, New York on 29 April 2010. It was located in the “Deyo” file among clippings and many other letters written by Wilfred between 1982 and 1985 to former historian Addie Shields. This appeared to be the last draft as I did not find any additions to this version of Wilfred’s genealogy in the file. This work has been retyped by myself but I added nothing nor did I take anything out of Wilfred’s work. It is typed verbatim.
-29 Apr 2010

The Deyo name from whence???

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As hard as it was for me to believe, our Deyo family name is not from the Netherlands and/or Huguenot communities as I had earlier thought but rather it comes down a more circuitous, and I might say “interesting” route. Let me explain what I have thus far unearthed:Champlain and First Nations leaders

  1. Leona Deyo, my grandmother (father’s mother) was born to George Deyo and Exina Minor in upstate New York in 1906.
  2. Her father, George Deyo, was born in 1868 of Mary Ann Burnah (Marie-Anne Bonin) and John Deyo (alternately known as: John Deo, John Dion and Jean Baptiste Dion).
  3. Jean Baptiste Dion was born in 1838 in Rouses Point, New York of Joseph Dion (also known as: Joseph Deyo, Joseph Deo, and Peter Deyo) and Julienne Denis (aka: Julia Faye and W. Julienne LaFaille).
  4. Joseph Dion was born in St. Hyacinthe, Quebec in 1810 of Benoit Guyon (aka. Benoit Dion) and Marie Alain.
  5. Benoit Guyon was the son of Joseph Benjamin Guyon and Brigitte Dion  born in 1772.
  6. Joseph Benjamin Guyon born 1748 was the son of Claude Guyon and Marie Geneviève Martineau.
  7. Claude Guyon was born in 1720 to Claude Guyon (the elder) and Francoise Gagnon.
  8. Claude Guyon (the elder) was born in 1693 to Jean Guyon and Marie Pepin.
  9. Jean Guyon, born in 1656, was the son of Claude Guyon (the eldest??)  and Catherine Collin.
  10. Claude (the eldest??) was born in 1626 to Jean Guyon dit Dion and Marie Huet in Montagne, Orne, Perche, France.  Claude was a Quebec Pioneer according to PRDH ( Le Programme de recherche en démographie historique -The Research Program in Historical Demography) at the Universite de Montreal (University of Montreal).
  11. Jean Guyon dit Dion was born in 1592 in Perche, France to Jacques Guyon and Mathurine Robin
  12. Jacques Guyon was born in 1562 to Mathurin Guyon and Madeline Aymard.

So as you can see, the Deyos are by virtue of time, transliteration and Anglicisation really part of the Guyon family.

If you want a copy of the GEDCOM file for the Deyos, once I am done with my major efforts, please let me know.  I am happy to share the tree.  As of this writing the tree contains nearly 500 people.

Deyo-Deo-Dion-Guyon!

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Claude Guyon 1663

Cyprien Tanguay "Genealogique..." for Claude Guyon

It pleases me to say that I have identified the entire male Deyo line from John Deyo through to Claude Guyon (born 1629).  The Deyos as we all knew were from France.  Now we know their names and a bit about their journey.  As I find additional information, I will continue to update and post notices on ManyRoads.

CLAUDE  GUYON DION           Status(es) :      Immigrant

Birth :     1629-04-22     st-jean, v. mortagne, ev. sees, perche (ar. mortagne, orne)
First marriage  :      1655     Québec
with
CATHERINE  COLIN
Second marriage  :      1688     Ste-Famille I.O.
with
MARGUERITE  BINAUDIERE

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The Dion – Deyo family from Quebec

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It is with special gratitude, appreciation, and ‘apologies’ to the following individuals:

  • Barb Deyo,
  • Wilfred Deyo (deceased),
  • Linda Hayne,
  • Craig LaPine
  • Patti Gravel,
  • Gloria Pratt,
  • Carole Relation

that I can now tell the tale of our Dion Family (today most commonly known as the Deyo Family) and their migration from Quebec to the Clinton County area of upstate New York.

This story has long been muddled and unclear. But in concert with the efforts and information from the folks listed above, I am certain that we now have a much clearer and accurate picture of who we are and where we came from.

This story has its beginnings with two people who, we now know, were born as Joseph Dion and Julienne Denis; both came from humble roots.

  • Based upon circumstantial evidence, it appears that Joseph Dion was born Jean Baptiste Guyon on 24 Jun 1799, the second such named son of Ignace Guyon and his second wife Marie Suzanne Gervais. His birth is recorded in the Church registry of Saint Marc sur Richelieu parish in Quebec. The same church registry records Joseph’s first marriage as taking place on 24 November 1818 to Marie Normandin the adopted daughter of Francois Normandin and Judith Chatel. The registry records no children pf this union, nor does it record the presumed death of Marie Normandin before the 1828 marriage of Joseph Dion and Julie Denys.
  • Julienne (Julia) was baptised on 28 January of 1808 at Ste-Marguerite-de-Blairfindie, L’Acadie, Quebec, Canada.  Her father was Ignace Denis a laborer; her mother was Julie LaFaye.Julienne Denis 1808
  • Their marriage took place 22 July 1848 in Napierville, Quebec (St Cyprien Parish).  The marriage is noted as being between Joseph Yon & JulieDenys.
  • In 1851 we find the family living in St. Bernard, Lacolle, Quebec.  They are living, according to the 1851 Census in Canada, in a log home with a second family (Augustin & Polini Marier).  Joseph is earning a living as a joiner (carpenter).Deo-Dion 1851 Canada Census

Based on the Baptisms of the Dion children appearing on the 1851 Census, we know the following:

  • in 1832 the young family lived near St. Valetin parish in St. Jean Quebec (Aurelie’s baptism)Auriele Dion-1832
  • 1835 they were near St-Jean-Sur-Richelieu (St-Jean-L`Évangéliste), Québec (based upon the baptism of Adelaide)Adelaide Dion-1835
  • in 1838 they were living near Rouses Point, New York (this based upon the death record of John Deyo) who in 1851 was enumerated using his middle name: BaptisteJohn Deyo Death Certificate

It is my belief that the remaining children may have been been baptized at St. Joseph’s Corbeau, Coopersville, Clinton Co. N.Y Roman Catholic Church (if anyone has records of these baptisms, wherever they may have occurred, I would greatly appreciate a link or copy).

By 1860, we find most of the Joseph Dion/ Julienne Denis, now registered in the US Census of 1860 as Peter & Julie Deyo of Westport, Essex County New York.  Joseph is working as a laborer; Frank (formerly Francois) is also a day laborer.  The two older daughters, from the Canadian 1851 enumeration, appear to have remained behind in Quebec (they are not enumerated in the US in 1860).  It is worth noting that there are numerous problems with the 1860 Census data including the fact that all of ‘these’ Deyos were born in the US. However, even given those problems, I still believe this indicates that most of the Dion/Deyo family was in Northern New York by 1860.Peter Deyo Family- 1860

By 1870, both Joseph and Julia were in Altona.  Deyos of Altona- 1870
Eli, Ralph and Adeline were all in Alburg Vt. by 1870 (according to the US Census)- although the birth date for Adeline could indicate she is not our Adelaide Dion.  Further, as Wilfred Deyo’s report further indicates:

Immigration

1850’s: The records would indicate that Joseph and Julia(Faye) Deyo immigrated to the United States of America in the 1850’s following the birth of their last child- Eli Deyo. It appears that they entered. the United States at Rouses Point, New York and moved on to Champlain, New York; Chazy, New York; and then Altona, New York where they apparently settled permanently and, became farmers. Records of deeds shows Joseph Deyo owning a farm in the Altona, New York area around 1865. Later some members of the family migrated to Alburg, Vermont where some remained permanently while others returned to New York State and settled in Clinton County.

Citizenship-United States

  • 186l: Joseph DEYO Age 60 years-Living in Altona, New York, makes a declaration and is accepted as a citizen, on October 24, 1861.
  • 1868: Joseph DEYO Age 24 years-living in Altona, New York for the past 6 years makes a declaration and is accepted as a citizen- October 24, 1868.
  • 1868: Ralph DEYO Age 22 years-living in Altona, New York makes a y declaration and is accepted as a citizen on October 24, 1868.

Note: It is not known at this time where the other members of the family were admitted as citizens, if in fact they were.

Property purchased

  • 1871:-DEYO, Joseph of Plattsburgh purchased for $350 half of lot no.8 on West side of William St.
  • 1875:-DEYO, Joseph of Plattsburgh purchased half of lot no. 8 (other half of lot in no. 1)

Note: It is presumed that the Joseph buying the lot in Plattsburgh was the son of Joseph who at that time already was owner of a farm in Altona, New York.

Deo/Deyo is Dion!

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If you look at the attached record you will find the following Joseph Dion/Deo/Deyo family residing in Quebec during the 1851 Census. This both firmly places the family in St. LaColle, near Montreal.  We also now know through related birth documents of these ‘newly found’ children (for me ‘new’ at least…), the parents birth names were:

  • Joseph Dion born in St. Mare Quebec (according to the 1851 Census)… it is worth noting that there is no St. Mare in Quebec so that fact must be incorrect.
  • Julienne Denis born in L’Acadie Quebec (according to the 1851 Census)… this additional fact confirms the birth record we have found for Julienne Denis

The Deo/Deyo/Dion family in 1851 consisted of:

  • Dion (Deo), Joseph (father)
  • Dion (Deo/Denis), Julienne (mother)
  • Dion (Deo), Adelaide
  • Dion (Deo), Joseph
  • Dion (Deo), Julia
  • Dion (Deo), Ralph
  • Dion, Aurelie
  • Dion, Baptiste
  • Dion, Francois
  • Dion, Hilarie
Deo-Dion 1851 Canada Census

Joseph Deyo & Descendants

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The Deyos- 1800-1982 [written by Wilfred Frank Deyo circa 1982]

The writer, Wilfred Frank Deyo will incorporate -the following information available as of October 8, 1982 into the “Deyo Family History”- 1800-1982-From Canada to the United States of America which he hopes to put together in the not too distant future. More

John (Jean, Zeb) Deyo (Deo-Dion)!

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Some names can be confusing! I think the title of this post bears that out.

Recently I received the following note from Gloria Cusson Pratt of the Northern New York- American Canadian Genealogical Society. Her note informed me of the following:

John married as Jean Baptiste Dion to Marie Bonin on 2 July 1866 at St. Ann’s [Roman Catholic Church in] Mooers Forks, NY.  Deo/Deyo/Dion are all dit names [synonyms] for Deo.  Most of their children are listed in the St. Ann Book, Moeers Forks, NY. His parent’s are Joseph Dion and Julia Lafaille/Faye.

Gloria

With this information in hand, I am now able to add numerous avenues of research in finding the roots of the Deyos of Northern New York.

Thank you Gloria!

Deyo genealogy

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Based on data and input I have received from various people, I believe I have traced  and documented a “plausible” genealogy for the Joseph Deo family leading back to France in the late 1600s.

If anyone is interested in reviewing the tree and commenting on what I have pieced together, please contact me.

A Deyo History- recounted

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This document and information is sourced from email messages sent to Mark Rabideau by Patty Gravel.

In 1982 Wilfred Deyo, the son of Richard Deyo and the grandson of Eli Deyo, went to Altona to trace the Deyo family line.  While there he met with family members to gather their oral history. His findings made there way to me via my Mom (Today my Mom is 85; her mother was Mina Deyo Oconnor, the daughter of Eli Deyo and Philomen Lafountain). More

News at ManyRoads

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newsFor those of you who keep track of such things, here’s a quick list of our latest discoveries and happenings.

  • The German Red Cross wrote and provided a wealth of information on Frieda Senger’s internment in the Soviet Gulag system after WW2.  This information has been more than 60 years in coming. Click to read more.
  • Because of the aforementioned documents, we have identified additional information about the particular Gulag. Click to read more.
  • We are making good headway on the John Deyo mystery.  Actually this mystery has now turned into one about his father Joseph Deo/Deyo/Dion. Click to read more.
  • We placed a user poll on our site.  Please let us know what you think!

This next week promises to be eventful in our genealogy space…

The Deyo Mystery… is solved!!

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Note: I have solved this mystery and established the link.  John’s parent’s were, in fact, Joseph Dion (Deo- Deyo) and Julia (Julie/ Julienne) Denis (Denys, Lafay, LaFaille, Dennis).

The most commanding piece of obvious genealogical evidence is immediately below (John’s death certificate).

John Deyo Death Certificate

As for the rest of the story, I am writing and plan to post a more complete history. My previous post on this subject is below:

I am searching to find the parents of one John Deyo. I can find an obvious (but incorrect!) link from him to a set of parents identified in the New Paltz area of New York as Christian Deyo… I think we now can say for certain that our Deyos are from Canada not New Paltz. My sister (Linda) is going to do some record research in Albany this week to see what she is able to unearth. (more to come… we hope!)

So here’s the dilemma I have, on the last census it seems John parents are Canadian (John & Julie Deo); earlier evidence seems to indicate John was born in the US (what we don’t know is who these people were before they came to the US).

After performing a detailed analysis of all the Deyo’s it is highly unlikely that I have yet found the parents of our John Deo/ Deyo.   My analysis of the Joseph & John Deo’s in Altona circa 1870-1880 would seem to point to Joseph Deo being the father of John…  however, we have no proof . My sister Linda is going to visit NYS records to see what may lie there.  I have contacted Holy Angels Church in Altona and also Altona (NY) Town Clerk to see what they might offer.  Oh and yes, I have contacted the genealogy group from Altona. My sister is going to also examine the adjoining town of Chazy for records… and look in Altona for any property records (because 1880 and 1870 Censuses both indicate  the Deo’s were property owners- farmers). It is quite the mystery.

Any help or insight is MOST appreciated!

Genealogically, here’s what I had (and now believe to be incorrect!):

Deyo John

1837 – 1924

Birth Abt Dec 1837 Rosendale, Ulster, New York USA
  • The 1910 Census indicates he was born in Vermont. The 1900 Census provides the approximate birth date.
Gender Male
Census 1870 Census Altona, Clinton, New York USA
Census 1850 Rosendale, Ulster, New York USA
Census 1900 Wilton, Saratoga, New York USA
  • This census indicates John was born in New York, as were his parents and wife.
Census 1910 Altona, Clinton, New York USA
Died 1924 Altona, New York USA
  • date obtained from his headstone…Holy Angels Roman Catholic Cemetery Altona, Clinton County, New York
Father Deyo Christian J, b. 11 Apr 1807, New Paltz, Ulster, New York USA , d. 11 Dec 1887, New Paltz, Ulster, New York USA
Mother DuBois Blandina, b. 17 Jul 1812, New Paltz, Ulster, New York USA , d. 25 Jul 1885, New Paltz, Ulster, New York USA
Married 8 Sep 1831 New Paltz, Ulster, New York USA
Family Burnah Mary Ann, b. Abt Apr 1853, d. 1940, Altona, New York USA
Married Abt 1864
Children
> 1. Deyo George, b. 1868, Altona, Clinton, New York USA , d. 1945

  • Notes
    • John appears to have been either disowned or otherwise cast away from the Christian J. Deyo family. For most of his life, he moves from place to place and continually changes description of his birth location.

    • Flucht über das Haff

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    Francois Belanger

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    Francois Horlays Belanger was born on October 02, 1612; at Touque, Normandy, Orne, France; the son of Francois Lisieux Belanger and Francoise Belanger Horlays. According to the church records he was baptized five days later: “On the seventh day of October (1612) was baptized Francois Bellanger, son of Francois Bellanger and Francoise Horlays and was named after the honorable Francois Dumesnil, Squire of St-Teny, and by the honorable Nicolas Bougis, Sieur de Fosses, and mademoisel Loyse Gurou, wife of Squire Guillaume Lepaulnier, Sieur de la Chapelle.”
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